Penultimate Notes
by Schadenfreude
09/27/2011, 11:00 AM #
1.Of all of the many internet "don'ts", "Invite your stalker to dinner" is very, very near the top.
2.Why do all of our local conspiracy theorists think the Plotz posts are a hoax? It seems to draw a stark line between those who are reality-challenged and...well...normal people.
3.Good to see some old posters coming back for the final show, some of them anonymously. Sorry we didn't have a better show for you guys. Yes, this really is what we've been doing for the last seven years.
4.There is a 4, but it's a deep, dark secret.
5.There is, however, no 5.
6.For those of you looking to recreate the Fray experience on some other board: it ain't gonna happen.
7.The moving finger, having writ, moves on...
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09 August 2011
Since I Found The Fray
Since I Found The Fray
by Schadenfreude
08/08/2011, 11:10 AM #
1.I have lived in three different countries.
2.I have changed jobs six times and been fired twice
3.I have tripled my income*
4.I have had a shot at winning $2 million (not much of one)
5.My kids have gone from diapers to teenagaers
6.I have changed my mind on several things (gay marriage for one)
7.I have made more enemies than friends
* Apparently, the key to success is to ignore work.
Since I Found The Fray
by Archaeopteryx
08/08/2011, 11:49 AM #
1. I finished graduate school.
2. Found my job, received tenure, published 6 papers.
3. Actually began earning an income.
4. I had a shot at winning 210 million dollars, but some asshole at a convenience store in Ohio bought the winning ticket.
5. My marriage managed to survive, but it was touch-and-go for a while. This was unrelated to the Fray...I think.
6. I have changed my mind on several things because of things I've read on the Fray--thanks to TK, ZB, DC, TG, Hipparchia, Daveto, Ghost, and others. I've thought about things in ways I never would have, thanks to those named, plus Inkberrow, Schmutzie, Catnapping, Schad, Ender, Keifus, John McG, and countless others. I've lost faith in humanity after reading posts by...well, you know...
7. I have made more friends than enemies, if you can count people you've never laid eyes on as "friends."
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by Schmutzie
08/08/2011, 12:23 PM #
Same apartment, same job, no jackpot, no kids, I changed my mind on capital punishment, Way more friends than enemies. I posted once from the parking lot near Mather Point on the South Rim of the Grand Canyon, and twice from a hotel in Joplin, MO.
A BotF post you made triggered the Geezer Experiment.
Since I Found The Fray
by skitch
08/08/2011, 12:25 PM #
1. I've put on a few more pounds than I'd like.
2. My feet hurt more.
Since I Met You Baby, or Since I Fell For You?
by Inkberrow
08/08/2011, 1:15 PM #
Take that as meaning the Fray or yourself, Schad, as you prefer.
1. I've lived in one country, but set foot in eight
2. I've had the same job
3. I've doubled my income
4. No prospects of a windfall
5. I've gone from boxers to diapers
6. I've changed my mind on several thing (Al Jazeera for one)
7. I don't know if I've made more enemies than friends
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by RonB52
08/08/2011, 1:43 PM #
1. I've lived in the same townhouse.
2. I have the same day job.
3. I added a second teaching job and turned down a third.
4. I won the "Whad'ya Know" quiz.
5. My kids have become vegetarians.
6. I have become in general less homophobic.
7. I have had more friends than enemas.
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by DrNo
08/08/2011, 2:01 PM #
1: My son got cancer
2: My son underwent multiple sugeries, chemo and radiation treatments.
3: My son has been cancer-free for two years.
4: Nothing else matters.
Since I Found The Fray
by daveto
08/08/2011, 2:19 PM #
I once lived in the same town as Schadenfreude. (I didn't fire or hire him -- knowingly.)
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by yastfort
08/08/2011, 2:25 PM #
I'm happily married
I'm a better cook
My teeth are whiter
My c___'s bigger
Since I Found The Fray
by greeneggsnham
08/08/2011, 8:06 PM #
I've had my fingerprints altered several times.
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by TenaciousK
08/08/2011, 11:09 PM #
1. I have lived in five different houses.
2. I have changed jobs twice.
3. I quadrupled my income, then halved it.
4. One of my parents died.
5. I have gotten divorced and remarried.
6. I have successfully navigated US immigration.
7. One child went from middle school to college, the other from elementary school to senior HS year.
8. I've changed my mind about many things.
9. I've learned some important things about myself.
10. I've made many friends, and lost a few, and switched from dogs to cats.
11. I quit smoking. Twice. And it's stuck.
12. I'm very happy.
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by meridiantoo
08/09/2011, 12:56 PM #
- I have lived in two houses
- I have changed jobs once
- I have shared God's Holy word in Zambia, Zinbabwe, South Africa, China, Mexico, Nicaragua, Honduras and six states in the USA.
- I have seen both of my sons impress me in ways I never thought would happen.
- I have thanked the Lord for my Wife (MHNBPF) thousands of times.
- I have received an artificial heart valve, two stints, two bypasses, a loop recorder and pacemaker.
- I have purchased one new truck
- I have stood less that twenty feet from a live rhino in the brush of Africa with nothing between me and him, except open air. I have scaled mountains swam in rivers with crocodiles and hippos and looked across a hundred thousand acres of wilderness.
- I have repared my Husqvarna more times than I can count.
- I have made more friends around the world than are countable. And a few here.
- Oh, I built a barn - a pretty good barn
Since I found the Fray,
by Fritz Gerlich
08/09/2011, 1:16 PM #
I've kept it in a sealed compartment. It has nothing else to do with the rest of my life. This is true not only physically and socially but emotionally. I've never assumed any of you is anything but pixels on a screen. It's like a go game--you put down your pixels, I put down mine. Over time, patterns are formed. There's a certain pleasure in it. But at the end of the day, we pack up the game and go home.
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by Keifus
08/10/2011, 6:26 PM #
1.I haven't even left the country.
2.The same crappy job got worse, better, and then absolutely horrible.
3.I've increased my income by almost 12%.
4.The journey from diapers to teenagers happened to my kids too. Well, one of them so far.
5.I stayed saner (and slightly more sober) than expected for all those years while I stayed up by myself.
6.Made a couple dozen friends I've never met. (Want a hug, Schad? I'll have to spell it with parentheses.) I found a point to Facebook.
7.I've watched the place die three or four times, and then get weakly resurrected, like a crappy photocopy of itself.
8.I've become a completely different person. Who is somehow more like myself.
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by newrundeep
08/11/2011, 8:04 AM #
1. Same country, same city, same house. 2. Third job. 3. Income has gone way up and way down and will be about 1.5 times where it was when I started here. 4. Kid went from elementary school to high school. 5. I made a few genuine friends, discovered that people I thought I liked were not all friends, and discovered I really genuinely disliked a number of others. 6. Marriage survived. 7. I too have changed my mind about a lot of things. To my shock, I'm getting more liberal as I conclude that the Tea Party is an incipient fascist movement and I truly believe we could see unrest near the scale of the French Revolution as the class wars escalate. 8. I don't make enemies, I just allow people to fall into the darkness where they dare not speak to me. 9. Mom got cancer, I've been the caretaker. Surgery, chemo, and now radiation. It's a frigging haul, let me tell you. 10. I've seriously improved my tennis.
my stomach aches today.
by Snolly G
08/11/2011, 9:14 AM #
since i found the fray,
1.i have lived in one country
2.i have not changed jobs
3.i have multiplied my income by -3.0
4.i have had a miniscule shot at winning some hundred million dollars
5.the twinkle in my eye now has mass
6.i have changed my mind on several things (gays, for one)
7.i have made more friends than enemies
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by dumb_blonde
08/11/2011, 9:18 AM #
1. Both kids graduated & we became empty nesters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2. One kid married
3. Two grandkids born.
4. Bought a house, planted a bunch of trees in the yards & now they are HUGE.
5. My income has stayed about the same, health insurance pretty much cancels out the raises I've received. Hubby's income has at least doubled.
6. Gone through several severe health issues with family members
7. Got my own motorcycle
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by Ted Burke
08/12/2011, 11:39 AM #
1.Sober for 24 years.
2. 24 years beyond my life expectancy.
3. Have had my poems published in various small magazines.
4.Was laid off by a management company because they were in financial trouble.
5. Was rehired for the same job when the business owners fired the management company and offered me my job back.
6.Appreciate the wealth of friends and family in my life.
7. Write better than I ever have.
8. Still a jerk
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by SouthernGal
08/15/2011, 1:37 AM #
1. I've lived in only one country but that could change [see # 4]
2. I had a stroke and could no longer work
3. My income is nonexistent
4. I have a chance at winning untold millions every Tue. and Fri,
5. My kids have grown into adulthood and I could not be happier or prouder
6. I've continued to have an open mind about most things
7. I've made enemies and some good friends and one very good friend
8. I realized certain posters would always ignore me but I learned to live with it
9. I had no idea pixels on a screen could make me cry or laugh out loud
10. I learned not to let pixels on a screen make me cry [with exceptions]
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by NickD
08/15/2011, 9:51 PM #
1. I have refinanced my home, twice, to help pay expenses and provide quality of life for disabled and dying family members.
2. I have lost my mother.
3. I have lost my brother.
4. I lost the woman I loved.
5. I lost my sister in law.
6. I lost my best friend.
7. I suffered a minor stroke.
8. I gained about 20 pounds.
9. I almost think I can't wait for the fray to go away.
However:
I have become un-afraid to write. And I now realize just how badly I detest the right wing and the extremes of the left. I have learned that intellegence does not always denote ability, nor does it always equal empiricle knowledge, and that there are no prospects for fixing stupid. I quit smoking and stayed quit.
One obviously cannot blame the Fray for the physical things that happen in the world, but I can give this place at least partial credit for my newly rediscovered desire to write. Should this place still be alive when I get published I am going dedicate my first book to this place and to my deceased family members but not in that order.
Note to Schad: If you are true to yourself and what you believe, if you are honest in your dealings with people you will always have enemys. There was a book written during the early eighties or late seventies called Winning Through Intimidation. I haven't seen my copy in about twenty years but the author broke people down into three basic groups with sub groups. While he got somethings wrong he was basically accurate in his description of the three major catagories. We all pretty much fall into one of them.
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by SamIamNot
08/17/2011, 4:41 PM #
1. I have maintained a very low key on the few boards I read. I am guessing DB and LI (if he is still here) are the only ones here who remember me from more than a year or so ago.
2. I have remained married to the same woman
3. I have watched my kids grow up to be very nice young adults and start college
4. I have lived in the same house
5. I have worked at the same company but have switched jobs a few times.
6. I have only left the country once to go to Isreal which I would never have thought was a likely place to visit
7. I have visited many places in the US. Some while on business others on persnal travel
8. I have stayed above (mostly) the squabbles on the Fray (see #1)
9. Have had my opinions swayed here an there by those on the fray
10. Have never met anyone face-to-face from the fray but know a few by their real names
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by adorablepuppyofwar
08/28/2011, 9:03 PM #
1. a loved one committed suicide [and i didn't even see it coming]
2. a loved one died of cancer [and i was glad when the end finally came]
3. the cat who was my soulmate and defender-from-burglars got old and died [i still miss him]
4. the dog who was my jogging partner [and soulmate] got old and is lingering at death's doorstep
5. i accidentally adopted 11 more cats and suddenly became a crazy cat lady
6. i really would have turned into a crazy, 'you kids get off my lawn' kind of hermit if i hadn't met a bunch of interesting and engaging and [sometimes] sane people on the internet, starting with the fray and extending to blogs and twitter and even into rl. many thanks to all y'all [and that includes you, schad].
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by Luo_Yi
08/29/2011, 2:59 AM #
Favorites Reply
At the risk of appearing to copy your points verbatum...
1.I have lived in three different countries
2.I have changed jobs 7 times and been retrenched once
3.I have quadrupled my income (must consider taxes in this figure)
4.I have met/married a great lady who "cured me of my wickedness"
5.I have had my opinion changed several times
6.I have learned some very valuable lessons (mostly investment/economic)
7.I have followed the lives of many people who I would be happy to know IRL. (I was going to say chatted with many people, but I mostly lurk on slate now rather than posting/exchanging)
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by catnapping
08/29/2011, 3:35 PM #
1. I have lost my husband.
2. I have lost all my hair, and grown it back again.
3. I have gained 40 pounds, lost 60, and then gained 4.
4. I have taught myself to draw little birds.
5. I have dabbled in poetry and prose.
6. I have learned how to write HTML only after CSS became the accepted language.
7. I have learned to walk with a walker, and then learned to walk without one again.
8. I have formed a friendship every bit as strong as any I'd ever formed in the meat world. (I love you, SouthernGal.)
9. I have gotten crushes on 5 different men on the fray, some of them married, one of them gay. But I don't care - my heart beats faster just reading their names.
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by Rat
09/02/2011, 11:53 PM #
1. George Bush was elected president by the Supreme Court
2. George Bush re-started my career in writing song parodies
3. My father died
4. I celebrated 10 of my 34 wedding anniversaries
5. I met a few Fraysters
6. I bought a house
7. There is no 11
by Schadenfreude
08/08/2011, 11:10 AM #
1.I have lived in three different countries.
2.I have changed jobs six times and been fired twice
3.I have tripled my income*
4.I have had a shot at winning $2 million (not much of one)
5.My kids have gone from diapers to teenagaers
6.I have changed my mind on several things (gay marriage for one)
7.I have made more enemies than friends
* Apparently, the key to success is to ignore work.
Since I Found The Fray
by Archaeopteryx
08/08/2011, 11:49 AM #
1. I finished graduate school.
2. Found my job, received tenure, published 6 papers.
3. Actually began earning an income.
4. I had a shot at winning 210 million dollars, but some asshole at a convenience store in Ohio bought the winning ticket.
5. My marriage managed to survive, but it was touch-and-go for a while. This was unrelated to the Fray...I think.
6. I have changed my mind on several things because of things I've read on the Fray--thanks to TK, ZB, DC, TG, Hipparchia, Daveto, Ghost, and others. I've thought about things in ways I never would have, thanks to those named, plus Inkberrow, Schmutzie, Catnapping, Schad, Ender, Keifus, John McG, and countless others. I've lost faith in humanity after reading posts by...well, you know...
7. I have made more friends than enemies, if you can count people you've never laid eyes on as "friends."
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by Schmutzie
08/08/2011, 12:23 PM #
Same apartment, same job, no jackpot, no kids, I changed my mind on capital punishment, Way more friends than enemies. I posted once from the parking lot near Mather Point on the South Rim of the Grand Canyon, and twice from a hotel in Joplin, MO.
A BotF post you made triggered the Geezer Experiment.
Since I Found The Fray
by skitch
08/08/2011, 12:25 PM #
1. I've put on a few more pounds than I'd like.
2. My feet hurt more.
Since I Met You Baby, or Since I Fell For You?
by Inkberrow
08/08/2011, 1:15 PM #
Take that as meaning the Fray or yourself, Schad, as you prefer.
1. I've lived in one country, but set foot in eight
2. I've had the same job
3. I've doubled my income
4. No prospects of a windfall
5. I've gone from boxers to diapers
6. I've changed my mind on several thing (Al Jazeera for one)
7. I don't know if I've made more enemies than friends
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by RonB52
08/08/2011, 1:43 PM #
1. I've lived in the same townhouse.
2. I have the same day job.
3. I added a second teaching job and turned down a third.
4. I won the "Whad'ya Know" quiz.
5. My kids have become vegetarians.
6. I have become in general less homophobic.
7. I have had more friends than enemas.
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by DrNo
08/08/2011, 2:01 PM #
1: My son got cancer
2: My son underwent multiple sugeries, chemo and radiation treatments.
3: My son has been cancer-free for two years.
4: Nothing else matters.
Since I Found The Fray
by daveto
08/08/2011, 2:19 PM #
I once lived in the same town as Schadenfreude. (I didn't fire or hire him -- knowingly.)
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by yastfort
08/08/2011, 2:25 PM #
I'm happily married
I'm a better cook
My teeth are whiter
My c___'s bigger
Since I Found The Fray
by greeneggsnham
08/08/2011, 8:06 PM #
I've had my fingerprints altered several times.
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by TenaciousK
08/08/2011, 11:09 PM #
1. I have lived in five different houses.
2. I have changed jobs twice.
3. I quadrupled my income, then halved it.
4. One of my parents died.
5. I have gotten divorced and remarried.
6. I have successfully navigated US immigration.
7. One child went from middle school to college, the other from elementary school to senior HS year.
8. I've changed my mind about many things.
9. I've learned some important things about myself.
10. I've made many friends, and lost a few, and switched from dogs to cats.
11. I quit smoking. Twice. And it's stuck.
12. I'm very happy.
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by meridiantoo
08/09/2011, 12:56 PM #
- I have lived in two houses
- I have changed jobs once
- I have shared God's Holy word in Zambia, Zinbabwe, South Africa, China, Mexico, Nicaragua, Honduras and six states in the USA.
- I have seen both of my sons impress me in ways I never thought would happen.
- I have thanked the Lord for my Wife (MHNBPF) thousands of times.
- I have received an artificial heart valve, two stints, two bypasses, a loop recorder and pacemaker.
- I have purchased one new truck
- I have stood less that twenty feet from a live rhino in the brush of Africa with nothing between me and him, except open air. I have scaled mountains swam in rivers with crocodiles and hippos and looked across a hundred thousand acres of wilderness.
- I have repared my Husqvarna more times than I can count.
- I have made more friends around the world than are countable. And a few here.
- Oh, I built a barn - a pretty good barn
Since I found the Fray,
by Fritz Gerlich
08/09/2011, 1:16 PM #
I've kept it in a sealed compartment. It has nothing else to do with the rest of my life. This is true not only physically and socially but emotionally. I've never assumed any of you is anything but pixels on a screen. It's like a go game--you put down your pixels, I put down mine. Over time, patterns are formed. There's a certain pleasure in it. But at the end of the day, we pack up the game and go home.
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by Keifus
08/10/2011, 6:26 PM #
1.I haven't even left the country.
2.The same crappy job got worse, better, and then absolutely horrible.
3.I've increased my income by almost 12%.
4.The journey from diapers to teenagers happened to my kids too. Well, one of them so far.
5.I stayed saner (and slightly more sober) than expected for all those years while I stayed up by myself.
6.Made a couple dozen friends I've never met. (Want a hug, Schad? I'll have to spell it with parentheses.) I found a point to Facebook.
7.I've watched the place die three or four times, and then get weakly resurrected, like a crappy photocopy of itself.
8.I've become a completely different person. Who is somehow more like myself.
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by newrundeep
08/11/2011, 8:04 AM #
1. Same country, same city, same house. 2. Third job. 3. Income has gone way up and way down and will be about 1.5 times where it was when I started here. 4. Kid went from elementary school to high school. 5. I made a few genuine friends, discovered that people I thought I liked were not all friends, and discovered I really genuinely disliked a number of others. 6. Marriage survived. 7. I too have changed my mind about a lot of things. To my shock, I'm getting more liberal as I conclude that the Tea Party is an incipient fascist movement and I truly believe we could see unrest near the scale of the French Revolution as the class wars escalate. 8. I don't make enemies, I just allow people to fall into the darkness where they dare not speak to me. 9. Mom got cancer, I've been the caretaker. Surgery, chemo, and now radiation. It's a frigging haul, let me tell you. 10. I've seriously improved my tennis.
my stomach aches today.
by Snolly G
08/11/2011, 9:14 AM #
since i found the fray,
1.i have lived in one country
2.i have not changed jobs
3.i have multiplied my income by -3.0
4.i have had a miniscule shot at winning some hundred million dollars
5.the twinkle in my eye now has mass
6.i have changed my mind on several things (gays, for one)
7.i have made more friends than enemies
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by dumb_blonde
08/11/2011, 9:18 AM #
1. Both kids graduated & we became empty nesters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2. One kid married
3. Two grandkids born.
4. Bought a house, planted a bunch of trees in the yards & now they are HUGE.
5. My income has stayed about the same, health insurance pretty much cancels out the raises I've received. Hubby's income has at least doubled.
6. Gone through several severe health issues with family members
7. Got my own motorcycle
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by Ted Burke
08/12/2011, 11:39 AM #
1.Sober for 24 years.
2. 24 years beyond my life expectancy.
3. Have had my poems published in various small magazines.
4.Was laid off by a management company because they were in financial trouble.
5. Was rehired for the same job when the business owners fired the management company and offered me my job back.
6.Appreciate the wealth of friends and family in my life.
7. Write better than I ever have.
8. Still a jerk
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by SouthernGal
08/15/2011, 1:37 AM #
1. I've lived in only one country but that could change [see # 4]
2. I had a stroke and could no longer work
3. My income is nonexistent
4. I have a chance at winning untold millions every Tue. and Fri,
5. My kids have grown into adulthood and I could not be happier or prouder
6. I've continued to have an open mind about most things
7. I've made enemies and some good friends and one very good friend
8. I realized certain posters would always ignore me but I learned to live with it
9. I had no idea pixels on a screen could make me cry or laugh out loud
10. I learned not to let pixels on a screen make me cry [with exceptions]
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by NickD
08/15/2011, 9:51 PM #
1. I have refinanced my home, twice, to help pay expenses and provide quality of life for disabled and dying family members.
2. I have lost my mother.
3. I have lost my brother.
4. I lost the woman I loved.
5. I lost my sister in law.
6. I lost my best friend.
7. I suffered a minor stroke.
8. I gained about 20 pounds.
9. I almost think I can't wait for the fray to go away.
However:
I have become un-afraid to write. And I now realize just how badly I detest the right wing and the extremes of the left. I have learned that intellegence does not always denote ability, nor does it always equal empiricle knowledge, and that there are no prospects for fixing stupid. I quit smoking and stayed quit.
One obviously cannot blame the Fray for the physical things that happen in the world, but I can give this place at least partial credit for my newly rediscovered desire to write. Should this place still be alive when I get published I am going dedicate my first book to this place and to my deceased family members but not in that order.
Note to Schad: If you are true to yourself and what you believe, if you are honest in your dealings with people you will always have enemys. There was a book written during the early eighties or late seventies called Winning Through Intimidation. I haven't seen my copy in about twenty years but the author broke people down into three basic groups with sub groups. While he got somethings wrong he was basically accurate in his description of the three major catagories. We all pretty much fall into one of them.
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by SamIamNot
08/17/2011, 4:41 PM #
1. I have maintained a very low key on the few boards I read. I am guessing DB and LI (if he is still here) are the only ones here who remember me from more than a year or so ago.
2. I have remained married to the same woman
3. I have watched my kids grow up to be very nice young adults and start college
4. I have lived in the same house
5. I have worked at the same company but have switched jobs a few times.
6. I have only left the country once to go to Isreal which I would never have thought was a likely place to visit
7. I have visited many places in the US. Some while on business others on persnal travel
8. I have stayed above (mostly) the squabbles on the Fray (see #1)
9. Have had my opinions swayed here an there by those on the fray
10. Have never met anyone face-to-face from the fray but know a few by their real names
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by adorablepuppyofwar
08/28/2011, 9:03 PM #
1. a loved one committed suicide [and i didn't even see it coming]
2. a loved one died of cancer [and i was glad when the end finally came]
3. the cat who was my soulmate and defender-from-burglars got old and died [i still miss him]
4. the dog who was my jogging partner [and soulmate] got old and is lingering at death's doorstep
5. i accidentally adopted 11 more cats and suddenly became a crazy cat lady
6. i really would have turned into a crazy, 'you kids get off my lawn' kind of hermit if i hadn't met a bunch of interesting and engaging and [sometimes] sane people on the internet, starting with the fray and extending to blogs and twitter and even into rl. many thanks to all y'all [and that includes you, schad].
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by Luo_Yi
08/29/2011, 2:59 AM #
Favorites Reply
At the risk of appearing to copy your points verbatum...
1.I have lived in three different countries
2.I have changed jobs 7 times and been retrenched once
3.I have quadrupled my income (must consider taxes in this figure)
4.I have met/married a great lady who "cured me of my wickedness"
5.I have had my opinion changed several times
6.I have learned some very valuable lessons (mostly investment/economic)
7.I have followed the lives of many people who I would be happy to know IRL. (I was going to say chatted with many people, but I mostly lurk on slate now rather than posting/exchanging)
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by catnapping
08/29/2011, 3:35 PM #
1. I have lost my husband.
2. I have lost all my hair, and grown it back again.
3. I have gained 40 pounds, lost 60, and then gained 4.
4. I have taught myself to draw little birds.
5. I have dabbled in poetry and prose.
6. I have learned how to write HTML only after CSS became the accepted language.
7. I have learned to walk with a walker, and then learned to walk without one again.
8. I have formed a friendship every bit as strong as any I'd ever formed in the meat world. (I love you, SouthernGal.)
9. I have gotten crushes on 5 different men on the fray, some of them married, one of them gay. But I don't care - my heart beats faster just reading their names.
Re: Since I Found The Fray
by Rat
09/02/2011, 11:53 PM #
1. George Bush was elected president by the Supreme Court
2. George Bush re-started my career in writing song parodies
3. My father died
4. I celebrated 10 of my 34 wedding anniversaries
5. I met a few Fraysters
6. I bought a house
7. There is no 11
07 March 2010
04 February 2010
BOTF 2010: The Trail of Tiers
BOTF 2010: The Trail of Tiers
by Inkberrow
02/04/2010, 4:54 PM #
It's been almost exactly two years since this thread's celebrated debut. Hence, it's time to reset this latter-day homage to that most hallowed of BOTF traditions: the objective arranging of regular posters into ranked groups or subcategories. This BOTF Hierarchizing Imperative, for all its everyday essentiality, is not an easy master to serve, objectively speaking. Nor is the task of compiling this year's rankings any simpler than in 2008 and 2009. In fact, due to a variety of factors, this year is easily the most challenging Trail of Tiers yet, not least because I myself am no longer a full-fledged BOTF regular, a designation I'd proudly worn since mid-2001 (9/11 changed everything). As many of you are aware, something unprecedented in Fary history occurred last fall. A coterie of hothouse-flower Obama bots fled the no holds barred BOTF public debating society four months ago in the face of pointed, superior criticisms of their idol, to comiserate and gladhand elsewhere on the Fray with little or no challenges or threats to their indolent conformity. Because of some personal issues I'd as soon not discuss here now (hint: elective surgery), I accepted their discreet invitation to join them on their new board as a token conservative, in a nod to diversity for appearance's sake. Meanwhile, there are worse persons to be than Clarence Thomas. Check-book! Bennies! Eff you, if you don't like it. If you'd come from my neighborhood....
Thankfully, my remarkable powers of observation and evaluation have not waned one jot for all the upheavals on BOTF this past year. Nor has my fabled candor. Once said, and hardly subject to question at that, the flight to Schmutzie's Avignon and the ensuing Geezeronian Captivity remain but one sign and portent in these heady, fevered days on the Fray, which, so many now noise abroad, will be our very Last Days on Slate. So I will need to be at my full strength to pull this off, for those with eyes to see and listening flaps to hear. There have been changes and rumors of changes: board has risen against board, and format against format. Posters shall seek bans, but will not find them; and posters shall desire to leave, but the leaving shall flee from them. Lies shall become as truth, and the evil shall be worshiped as the good. Let him that hath understanding count the new number of the Post, for it is the number of a man, and his number is Five hundred. Yeah, and in ranking the New BOTF, do I grade on a curve, or do I let the Tiers flow as if from the fountains of Yore? Objectively speaking, whether the Captivity claimed the very cream of BOTF's intellect and the very flower of her imagination, or whether a few disgruntled, malevolent half-wits shambled off under cover of darkness to a subterranean, one-bed hovel---either way, the Tierscape has changed materially, in absolute terms. Are either the Third and Fourth tiers are now impoverished, or the First and Second? None of them? How does markedly fewer Regulars overall impact the rankings, if at all?
Methinks the curve has moved substantially, to retain the integrity of the Tiers, but only within certain parameters, to maintain the integrity of the Tiers. As always, the listed order within the Tiers is nearly random.
First Tier:
Kira Argounova; Betty the Crow; Angel of Dearth; Urquhart; Demosthenes; anxious_mofo; Baltimore Aureole; Tartuffe; Dawn Coyote; not abel; thelyamhound; Ducadmo;
Second Tier:
DallasNE; Gatewood; Woolley; JustOffal; JackDallas; RacistBastard/GagMeWithASpoon/etc.; another_liberal; Pace; UnsightlyVermin; NickD; Leg_Iron; Sashal 12; Liberick; Boca; Wrylee; Mom; sodak; WasLTT; PumpkinSeed; Your Stupid; Rat
Third Tier:
Michael09; Ralph Wiggum; Beachhouse; electric fence; Days; HAP; Skeptical: ZamZam; JMADISON; JV-12; No Hablo; konraad64; watt4Bob; plsgt-1; Dr.H
Fourth Tier:
LilMacg, et al; LaurieAnnM; El Cid; SpeakerNancy/Contempo; JanZ; firstphone; MaryAnne; Sgt. Rock; Ollies Ellen/Ellen's Marmalade et al; moonbirdshadow; BadunaMarius
by Inkberrow
02/04/2010, 4:54 PM #
It's been almost exactly two years since this thread's celebrated debut. Hence, it's time to reset this latter-day homage to that most hallowed of BOTF traditions: the objective arranging of regular posters into ranked groups or subcategories. This BOTF Hierarchizing Imperative, for all its everyday essentiality, is not an easy master to serve, objectively speaking. Nor is the task of compiling this year's rankings any simpler than in 2008 and 2009. In fact, due to a variety of factors, this year is easily the most challenging Trail of Tiers yet, not least because I myself am no longer a full-fledged BOTF regular, a designation I'd proudly worn since mid-2001 (9/11 changed everything). As many of you are aware, something unprecedented in Fary history occurred last fall. A coterie of hothouse-flower Obama bots fled the no holds barred BOTF public debating society four months ago in the face of pointed, superior criticisms of their idol, to comiserate and gladhand elsewhere on the Fray with little or no challenges or threats to their indolent conformity. Because of some personal issues I'd as soon not discuss here now (hint: elective surgery), I accepted their discreet invitation to join them on their new board as a token conservative, in a nod to diversity for appearance's sake. Meanwhile, there are worse persons to be than Clarence Thomas. Check-book! Bennies! Eff you, if you don't like it. If you'd come from my neighborhood....
Thankfully, my remarkable powers of observation and evaluation have not waned one jot for all the upheavals on BOTF this past year. Nor has my fabled candor. Once said, and hardly subject to question at that, the flight to Schmutzie's Avignon and the ensuing Geezeronian Captivity remain but one sign and portent in these heady, fevered days on the Fray, which, so many now noise abroad, will be our very Last Days on Slate. So I will need to be at my full strength to pull this off, for those with eyes to see and listening flaps to hear. There have been changes and rumors of changes: board has risen against board, and format against format. Posters shall seek bans, but will not find them; and posters shall desire to leave, but the leaving shall flee from them. Lies shall become as truth, and the evil shall be worshiped as the good. Let him that hath understanding count the new number of the Post, for it is the number of a man, and his number is Five hundred. Yeah, and in ranking the New BOTF, do I grade on a curve, or do I let the Tiers flow as if from the fountains of Yore? Objectively speaking, whether the Captivity claimed the very cream of BOTF's intellect and the very flower of her imagination, or whether a few disgruntled, malevolent half-wits shambled off under cover of darkness to a subterranean, one-bed hovel---either way, the Tierscape has changed materially, in absolute terms. Are either the Third and Fourth tiers are now impoverished, or the First and Second? None of them? How does markedly fewer Regulars overall impact the rankings, if at all?
Methinks the curve has moved substantially, to retain the integrity of the Tiers, but only within certain parameters, to maintain the integrity of the Tiers. As always, the listed order within the Tiers is nearly random.
First Tier:
Kira Argounova; Betty the Crow; Angel of Dearth; Urquhart; Demosthenes; anxious_mofo; Baltimore Aureole; Tartuffe; Dawn Coyote; not abel; thelyamhound; Ducadmo;
Second Tier:
DallasNE; Gatewood; Woolley; JustOffal; JackDallas; RacistBastard/GagMeWithASpoon/etc.; another_liberal; Pace; UnsightlyVermin; NickD; Leg_Iron; Sashal 12; Liberick; Boca; Wrylee; Mom; sodak; WasLTT; PumpkinSeed; Your Stupid; Rat
Third Tier:
Michael09; Ralph Wiggum; Beachhouse; electric fence; Days; HAP; Skeptical: ZamZam; JMADISON; JV-12; No Hablo; konraad64; watt4Bob; plsgt-1; Dr.H
Fourth Tier:
LilMacg, et al; LaurieAnnM; El Cid; SpeakerNancy/Contempo; JanZ; firstphone; MaryAnne; Sgt. Rock; Ollies Ellen/Ellen's Marmalade et al; moonbirdshadow; BadunaMarius
25 May 2009
Test: Fray Histories (and Mysteries)
Test: Fray Histories (and Mysteries)
by topazz_
05/25/2009, 4:15 PM #
Answer as many or as few as you wish - or answer none at all.
by topazz_
05/25/2009, 4:15 PM #
Answer as many or as few as you wish - or answer none at all.
- Is the poster known as the Ghost-of-A-Z a man or a woman? How do you know?
- What was Adam Morgan's claim to fray fame?
- On the morning of September 11, 2001, which NYC based fray posters wrote first person accounts of what was happening?
- Which fray poster is also an official White House Correspondent?
- Why did a post entitled “Jesus Had It Coming” cause such a furor?
- What were the original fray nics of these posters: tempo, seasquirt, Gregor Samsa, Fritz Gerlich, and Schadenfreude?
- Why is Ender notorious?
- Why was topazz awarded her star? Why was she stripped of it?
- How many posters have married someone they met on the fray?
- What reason did alexa-blue once give for using a feminine fray nic?
- Which fray poster was once a featured player in the Jeopardy International Tournament of Champions, and won?
- How exactly would you define a fray “meltdown”??
- What female poster did switters continually ask out, on the fray?
- What is the predominant race of Best of the Fray posters?
- What female poster convincingly faked her own death?
- Who is the fray's resident expatriate?
- Why did locdog leave the fray?
- Naming only one poster, who in your opinion, is the fray's best writer?
- If the fray is high school, who is Homecoming Queen?
- What episode would you consider as being the biggest “feud” or "brouhaha" ever to happen on the fray?
11 March 2009
BOTF 2009: The Trail of Tiers
BOTF 2009: The Trail of Tiers
by Inkberrow
03/11/2009, 3:50 PM #
It's been a bit over one year since the Tiers were last posted, so a re-indexing is warranted. A tumultuous year it has been, between laughing and weeping, natural and manmade disasters, crucial elections and selections, inside BOTF and out. The last of the old Editor Kings finally abandoned pretension to authority and respectability; any pretense that the ancien regime still existed other than in fond memory ("fond" as in "foolish" in Elizabethan usage?). Posters appeared and disappeared, left and returned, rose and fell, waxed and waned, talked and stalked, blogged and rolled and, more often than not, Stayed the Same, Don't Go Changin', Wouldn't Dream Of It. Bottoms were struck and re-struck (on the BOTF Quality Index), and yet there exists at this very hour guarded optimism that there may be a rational basis for guarded optimism. Onward and upward, BOTF!
First Tier (Light): Ryerson/StandardD; Fritz Gerlich; FieldingB/TenaciousD; Isonomist; Gregor Samsa; Schadenfreude; TheLyamhound; Zeus-Boy; Daveto; Keifus; Ducadmo; Alexa-Blue; Sawbones: The Bell; Schmutzie; Archaeopteryx; artandsoul; Ghost of A to Z; Skitch
Second Tier (Salt): Appolonius; Max Fischer Players; Snolly G; Genedio; BobW; Sarvis; Run75441; Rundeep; Bright Virago; Angel of Dearth/Jasper; Dawn Coyote; Topazz; Rev Rick; JackD; Tartuffe; Yastfort; Greenseggsnham; Thomas Paine; Catnapping; Schrodinger; Ron B52; Urquhart; Heleva; Camille Claudel; Ensley Hill; Dumb Blonde; Bacon; Artemesia; not abel; tonto goldberg; Unsightly Vermin; Ralph Wiggum; Seasquirt; Pace; Hst Fan; Demosthenes2; Mary Ann; Acrophony; Freitag's Pyramid
Third Tier (Peanuts' Gallery): Demcon; NickD; JV-12; Woolley; Jack Dallas; DragonTat2; JustOffal; Lono; Dallas NE; HWMD/Ci-Inc, et seq; Skeptical; MeridianToo; First Hawk; Another Liberal; Gypsy; Lil Mac G, et seq; Colonel McPhee; Watt4Bob; Dr. No; Advisory Tab; Pumpkin Seed; Leftist Marxist; Sashal12; BFD; Horus; friday13; Muffi and Mitzi, et seq; Night Swimmer; firstphone; Mom; Oott Rascals; koenraad64; bugger; kdr 2004
Fourth Tier (Peanuts): JimminyCr; JanZ; DreamBird, et seq.; LaurieAnnM, et seq; Sgt. Rock; California Dreamin'; GOPervert; Mary Anne; Days, et seq; Kikz; Michael09; Philadelphian; Genuflexio; Psychegram; Dadish; Geoff
by Inkberrow
03/11/2009, 3:50 PM #
It's been a bit over one year since the Tiers were last posted, so a re-indexing is warranted. A tumultuous year it has been, between laughing and weeping, natural and manmade disasters, crucial elections and selections, inside BOTF and out. The last of the old Editor Kings finally abandoned pretension to authority and respectability; any pretense that the ancien regime still existed other than in fond memory ("fond" as in "foolish" in Elizabethan usage?). Posters appeared and disappeared, left and returned, rose and fell, waxed and waned, talked and stalked, blogged and rolled and, more often than not, Stayed the Same, Don't Go Changin', Wouldn't Dream Of It. Bottoms were struck and re-struck (on the BOTF Quality Index), and yet there exists at this very hour guarded optimism that there may be a rational basis for guarded optimism. Onward and upward, BOTF!
First Tier (Light): Ryerson/StandardD; Fritz Gerlich; FieldingB/TenaciousD; Isonomist; Gregor Samsa; Schadenfreude; TheLyamhound; Zeus-Boy; Daveto; Keifus; Ducadmo; Alexa-Blue; Sawbones: The Bell; Schmutzie; Archaeopteryx; artandsoul; Ghost of A to Z; Skitch
Second Tier (Salt): Appolonius; Max Fischer Players; Snolly G; Genedio; BobW; Sarvis; Run75441; Rundeep; Bright Virago; Angel of Dearth/Jasper; Dawn Coyote; Topazz; Rev Rick; JackD; Tartuffe; Yastfort; Greenseggsnham; Thomas Paine; Catnapping; Schrodinger; Ron B52; Urquhart; Heleva; Camille Claudel; Ensley Hill; Dumb Blonde; Bacon; Artemesia; not abel; tonto goldberg; Unsightly Vermin; Ralph Wiggum; Seasquirt; Pace; Hst Fan; Demosthenes2; Mary Ann; Acrophony; Freitag's Pyramid
Third Tier (Peanuts' Gallery): Demcon; NickD; JV-12; Woolley; Jack Dallas; DragonTat2; JustOffal; Lono; Dallas NE; HWMD/Ci-Inc, et seq; Skeptical; MeridianToo; First Hawk; Another Liberal; Gypsy; Lil Mac G, et seq; Colonel McPhee; Watt4Bob; Dr. No; Advisory Tab; Pumpkin Seed; Leftist Marxist; Sashal12; BFD; Horus; friday13; Muffi and Mitzi, et seq; Night Swimmer; firstphone; Mom; Oott Rascals; koenraad64; bugger; kdr 2004
Fourth Tier (Peanuts): JimminyCr; JanZ; DreamBird, et seq.; LaurieAnnM, et seq; Sgt. Rock; California Dreamin'; GOPervert; Mary Anne; Days, et seq; Kikz; Michael09; Philadelphian; Genuflexio; Psychegram; Dadish; Geoff
See also: 2008's Trail of Tiers
04 November 2008
Dear President Obama,
Dear President Obama,
by Schadenfreude
11/04/2008, 10:14 AM #
Some free advice.
1. Get out of Iraq. Remember Nixon. If you're not out in two years, it's your war. You do not want Iraq to be Obama's war.
2. The Cuban embargo. Puh-lease. End this hypocritical farce now. It hasn't worked and it's never going to work.
3. Raise taxes on the rich, but don't get carried away.
4. There is no earthly reason for the US to go to war with Iran. Leave Iran alone and they are likely to work their way into the 21st century sooner rather than later.
5. There is no earthly reason for conflict with Russia. When the USSR split apart, some parts of Russia left with it. Russia is just trying to put itself back together. Russia and Belarus will probably merge at some point in the near future. Ukraine should be encouraged to give some of its Russian bits back to Russia. There is no good reason for NATO to become involved with Georgia (sorry, Georgia, but it's true). Putin's no saint, but he's no demon, either.
6. Stop cozying up to Saudi Arabia - more specifically, to the Saudi royal family. They're a bunch of thieves and religious fanatics. Buy their oil because you have to, but you don't need to pretend that you like them. They don't care - they're only pretending to like you because the US has the money.
7. Israel. Support their defence - not their aggression. A tightrope, both internationally and domestically, but I'm confident you know what I mean.
8. Good luck.
by Schadenfreude
11/04/2008, 10:14 AM #
Some free advice.
1. Get out of Iraq. Remember Nixon. If you're not out in two years, it's your war. You do not want Iraq to be Obama's war.
2. The Cuban embargo. Puh-lease. End this hypocritical farce now. It hasn't worked and it's never going to work.
3. Raise taxes on the rich, but don't get carried away.
4. There is no earthly reason for the US to go to war with Iran. Leave Iran alone and they are likely to work their way into the 21st century sooner rather than later.
5. There is no earthly reason for conflict with Russia. When the USSR split apart, some parts of Russia left with it. Russia is just trying to put itself back together. Russia and Belarus will probably merge at some point in the near future. Ukraine should be encouraged to give some of its Russian bits back to Russia. There is no good reason for NATO to become involved with Georgia (sorry, Georgia, but it's true). Putin's no saint, but he's no demon, either.
6. Stop cozying up to Saudi Arabia - more specifically, to the Saudi royal family. They're a bunch of thieves and religious fanatics. Buy their oil because you have to, but you don't need to pretend that you like them. They don't care - they're only pretending to like you because the US has the money.
7. Israel. Support their defence - not their aggression. A tightrope, both internationally and domestically, but I'm confident you know what I mean.
8. Good luck.
09 February 2008
BOTF 2008: The Trail of Tiers
BOTF 2008: The Trail of Tiers
by Inkberrow
02/09/2008, 5:33 PM #
From what I've gathered, it's long past that time again. Within the tiers, the order is random. From tier to tier, it most certainly is not. If it becomes necessary, or if there is sufficient interest, I can provide my own general description of the four tiers. Arguments for alternates structures and/or alternate placements are of course welcome. Arguments against there being any basis whatsoever for tiers or placements will be accorded the same patience as arguments for (or against) evolution as opposed to intelligent design.
First Tier:
Michael Ryerson; Fritz Gerlich; Apollonius; Fielding Bandolier; Isonomist; Gregor Samsa; Schadenfreude; OHellenbach; JGC; TheLyamhound; Zeus-Boy; Daveto; August; Thrasymachus
Second Tier:
Steve-R; Keifus; MaxFischerPlayers; JV-12; Rachel2; Ducadmo; SnollyG; Dr. H; BobW; Genedio; Luoyi; Alexa-Blue; Demcon; The Bell; Sawbones; Bald Tony; Baltimore Aureole; Sarvis; Run75441; Rundeep; Switters/TomRobbins; Schmutzie; OneTinSoldier; DawnCoyote; Revrick; JackD; Tartuffe; Yastfort; Dubina; ChicagoEngineer; Archaeopteryx; Topazz; GreenEggznHam; Wooley; Mom; Th Paine; Degsme; Artemesia
Third Tier:
Electric Fence/Barrier; Loree; Mithros; Nongrata; Ellen; Watt4Bob; EnsleyHill; Dr. No; NoHablo; AnotherLiberal; OneEyedJasper; First Hawk; DragonTat2; SouthernGal; OottRascals; MidWay; Biteoftheweek; Rainman/JackDallas; Catnapping/Katydont; Justoffal; BFD; Daysman; MeridianToo; Lono; NickD; DallasNE; Khentkawes; NairobiTrio/Ci-Inc; JanZ; MitchK; Pissenlit
Fourth Tier:
Skeppy; Joycean; LaurieAnnM/Nightengale; Sgt.Rock; Firstphone; Julieboomer; SpeakerNancy/Lunesta; MaryAnne; Bandit; WhipperSnapper; JMadison; Phoen-X; Gypsy; Lilith; Smarmalade; DreamBird
by Inkberrow
02/09/2008, 5:33 PM #
From what I've gathered, it's long past that time again. Within the tiers, the order is random. From tier to tier, it most certainly is not. If it becomes necessary, or if there is sufficient interest, I can provide my own general description of the four tiers. Arguments for alternates structures and/or alternate placements are of course welcome. Arguments against there being any basis whatsoever for tiers or placements will be accorded the same patience as arguments for (or against) evolution as opposed to intelligent design.
First Tier:
Michael Ryerson; Fritz Gerlich; Apollonius; Fielding Bandolier; Isonomist; Gregor Samsa; Schadenfreude; OHellenbach; JGC; TheLyamhound; Zeus-Boy; Daveto; August; Thrasymachus
Second Tier:
Steve-R; Keifus; MaxFischerPlayers; JV-12; Rachel2; Ducadmo; SnollyG; Dr. H; BobW; Genedio; Luoyi; Alexa-Blue; Demcon; The Bell; Sawbones; Bald Tony; Baltimore Aureole; Sarvis; Run75441; Rundeep; Switters/TomRobbins; Schmutzie; OneTinSoldier; DawnCoyote; Revrick; JackD; Tartuffe; Yastfort; Dubina; ChicagoEngineer; Archaeopteryx; Topazz; GreenEggznHam; Wooley; Mom; Th Paine; Degsme; Artemesia
Third Tier:
Electric Fence/Barrier; Loree; Mithros; Nongrata; Ellen; Watt4Bob; EnsleyHill; Dr. No; NoHablo; AnotherLiberal; OneEyedJasper; First Hawk; DragonTat2; SouthernGal; OottRascals; MidWay; Biteoftheweek; Rainman/JackDallas; Catnapping/Katydont; Justoffal; BFD; Daysman; MeridianToo; Lono; NickD; DallasNE; Khentkawes; NairobiTrio/Ci-Inc; JanZ; MitchK; Pissenlit
Fourth Tier:
Skeppy; Joycean; LaurieAnnM/Nightengale; Sgt.Rock; Firstphone; Julieboomer; SpeakerNancy/Lunesta; MaryAnne; Bandit; WhipperSnapper; JMadison; Phoen-X; Gypsy; Lilith; Smarmalade; DreamBird
07 December 2005
Appy Answers a Fray Survey...
Subject: Whenever someone does one of these
From: apollonius_
Date: Dec 7 2005 4:50PM
they never get what they are asking for because most people here have trouble telling the truth about each other on a wider spread. Everyone can agree that Baltimore Aureole is, at the same time, one of the stupidest and most dishonest of posters but when you get into putting your feelings into print then it stands as a record of something you could have kept to yourself and not said. How do you tell someone who is not your friend about a limitation that will offend their vanity?
I am in a unique position regarding this since those who actively dislike me will not be swayed in any respect and the reverse is also true; so I will play your game and be the first to actually ever do something like this where both cons and pro's are stated; primarily because I believe, as did Crowley and Alice that you are all just a pack of cards. No, I really believe that.
At the same time I enjoy cards and I am entertained by and even occasionally admire people who can't stand me. I try not to let someone's opinion of me automatically create the same in myself. You lose a lot that way. It's a given that no one here really knows anyone else; except in cases where a poster might be fence-post dumb or insanely supportive of improbable things. You still may not know them entirely but you can be fairly sure you never want to.
The other down side is the people you didn't list who think you should have- that's why fixed numbers don't work; mnore so because things work on a curve.
- Who are the five smartest?
Disclaimer- there is a difference between smart and well-informed but I'll just combine them according to perception. In no particular order;
Low Dudgeon
Ducadmo
IOZ
Inwitness
Chango
Theodore Geisel
Fritz Gerlich
I know that's 7 but I cannot add any if I add less
- Who are the five dumbest?
Baltimore Aureole
_Bandit
Gringo
Ele_
There are only four that I consider really stupid and you have to understand that I consider 'clueless' an expression of stupid. Stupid is as stupid does?
- Who are the five most original?
Catnapping- for her poetry
Me- I don't think anyone can argue with that.
IOZ
Sarvis
Urquhart
- Who are the five most likely to crib their topic
I don't understand the question well enough to answer it.
(if not content) from another source?
- Who are the five best (disciplined, effective) debaters?
Hauteur
Demonsthenes
Ducadmo
Low Dudgeon
Fritz Gerlich
Theodore Geisel
- Which five are most likely to toss a smoke bomb and then run?
That's too ambiguous because they do and they don't
- Which five are the most mature and articulate?
You can't combine mature and articulate- I'm living proof of that, so I'm going to answer it as mature and measured
Monfort
Gemini
Theodore Geisel
Ducadmo
Low Dudgeon
Splendid IREny
Demosthenes
- Which five remind you of impetuous children?
Denny
_Bandit
locdog
Ele_
Baltimore Aureole
- Which five would you want to share a beer with?
IOZ
Switters
Butterscotch
Catnapping
Hauteur
Inwittness
Chango
Low Dudgeon
Ducadmo
Gemini
come immediately to mind but this listing includes just about everyone and those whom I named I have either a personal fondness for or I am impressed with their intelligence or entertainment postential; mostly the latter
- Whicih five wold you actually probably despise in real life?
Gimmie Coffee
Gringo
Baltimore Aureole
Gregor Samsa
Schadenfreude
I could have added to this listing; I took the immediate impressions and I left out posters who would have been terribly injured to find out what I think. So you can never be completely honest. As far as what I mentioned I believe I am mostly correct.
Now feelings will get hurt but since I am routinely left off most positive lists of every type whenever they happen and since it doesn't bother me it shouldn't bother you.
one final category- funniest and most entertaining-
Switters
Bullshit Detector
Sarvis
Low Dudgeon
IOZ
Inwittness
Also you should have had "best comeback and skewer artist"
http://fray.slate.com/?id=3936&m=16353162
From: apollonius_
Date: Dec 7 2005 4:50PM
they never get what they are asking for because most people here have trouble telling the truth about each other on a wider spread. Everyone can agree that Baltimore Aureole is, at the same time, one of the stupidest and most dishonest of posters but when you get into putting your feelings into print then it stands as a record of something you could have kept to yourself and not said. How do you tell someone who is not your friend about a limitation that will offend their vanity?
I am in a unique position regarding this since those who actively dislike me will not be swayed in any respect and the reverse is also true; so I will play your game and be the first to actually ever do something like this where both cons and pro's are stated; primarily because I believe, as did Crowley and Alice that you are all just a pack of cards. No, I really believe that.
At the same time I enjoy cards and I am entertained by and even occasionally admire people who can't stand me. I try not to let someone's opinion of me automatically create the same in myself. You lose a lot that way. It's a given that no one here really knows anyone else; except in cases where a poster might be fence-post dumb or insanely supportive of improbable things. You still may not know them entirely but you can be fairly sure you never want to.
The other down side is the people you didn't list who think you should have- that's why fixed numbers don't work; mnore so because things work on a curve.
- Who are the five smartest?
Disclaimer- there is a difference between smart and well-informed but I'll just combine them according to perception. In no particular order;
Low Dudgeon
Ducadmo
IOZ
Inwitness
Chango
Theodore Geisel
Fritz Gerlich
I know that's 7 but I cannot add any if I add less
- Who are the five dumbest?
Baltimore Aureole
_Bandit
Gringo
Ele_
There are only four that I consider really stupid and you have to understand that I consider 'clueless' an expression of stupid. Stupid is as stupid does?
- Who are the five most original?
Catnapping- for her poetry
Me- I don't think anyone can argue with that.
IOZ
Sarvis
Urquhart
- Who are the five most likely to crib their topic
I don't understand the question well enough to answer it.
(if not content) from another source?
- Who are the five best (disciplined, effective) debaters?
Hauteur
Demonsthenes
Ducadmo
Low Dudgeon
Fritz Gerlich
Theodore Geisel
- Which five are most likely to toss a smoke bomb and then run?
That's too ambiguous because they do and they don't
- Which five are the most mature and articulate?
You can't combine mature and articulate- I'm living proof of that, so I'm going to answer it as mature and measured
Monfort
Gemini
Theodore Geisel
Ducadmo
Low Dudgeon
Splendid IREny
Demosthenes
- Which five remind you of impetuous children?
Denny
_Bandit
locdog
Ele_
Baltimore Aureole
- Which five would you want to share a beer with?
IOZ
Switters
Butterscotch
Catnapping
Hauteur
Inwittness
Chango
Low Dudgeon
Ducadmo
Gemini
come immediately to mind but this listing includes just about everyone and those whom I named I have either a personal fondness for or I am impressed with their intelligence or entertainment postential; mostly the latter
- Whicih five wold you actually probably despise in real life?
Gimmie Coffee
Gringo
Baltimore Aureole
Gregor Samsa
Schadenfreude
I could have added to this listing; I took the immediate impressions and I left out posters who would have been terribly injured to find out what I think. So you can never be completely honest. As far as what I mentioned I believe I am mostly correct.
Now feelings will get hurt but since I am routinely left off most positive lists of every type whenever they happen and since it doesn't bother me it shouldn't bother you.
one final category- funniest and most entertaining-
Switters
Bullshit Detector
Sarvis
Low Dudgeon
IOZ
Inwittness
Also you should have had "best comeback and skewer artist"
http://fray.slate.com/?id=3936&m=16353162
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